A laugh. Think about it, Guilliman was the only primarch. We also know that there is a watch-dog (for lack of a better term) to watch Guilliman to ensure he doesn't spread his non-belief in the God Emperor to the normal ranks (the Militant. Credits:Rowboat Girlyman art by Adrián Prado: Divina by Rhapsody of FireAnci. Guilliman is the echo of the Emperor's Heart and Soul. But I have reasons to believe otherwise. ’. The Imperium is under new management, with a very stressed and sad man named Roboute Guilliman taking the helm. And while Abbadon handily wins the duel and the battle, ruining the Imperial world and getting his claws on whatever he needed there, Guilliman's strategy and forces will eventually win the war, and renew the world. "You seriously need to get laid but not even a rock would do it with you. Yes if I remember correctly there's a brief passage in the Dark imperium series where he ponders the location of his brothers. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. He may yet serve. Maybe he is forced to do something that upsets the Ecliasarchy and Inquisition and as a. The primarch's physical presence hit Dante hard. I think there's a difference between channeling into a mind and making something's warp presence of your own image. ‘I say that you fear too much, and that Roboute Guilliman is a true son of the Emperor,’ said Achallor. No bad blood, just “thank god, someone competent to. The Lion wouldn't hate what Guilliman has done, Guilliman would hate what the Lion would do. That's the 9 loyal Primarchs, all had reasons for staying loyal. Gallan, it transpired, had long harboured designs on undiluted rulership and had consp…I don't think that Guilliman references the Emperor as a reason behind the Indominitus Crusade or as an inspiration for his dealings with Belisarius Cawl (which began before Guilliman went into stasis). . Lion thought Guilliman was trying to become The Emperor 2. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. The Emperor is not infallible, nor am I. I'd say stealing away thousands upon thousands of potential Astartes candidates/actual serving Astartes to turn them into improved super soldiers that you then keep hidden until the incredibly edge case scenario of Guilliman coming back to life occurs definitely seems like a total betrayal of the Emperor and his Imperium. Populations. He did not hear them at all. He was there to watch the primarch. But the reality is, his death would get out. Better that we had all burned in the fire of Horus' ambition than lived to see this. There is only survival. Oh yeah, and the High Lord killing stuff (though Guilliman more or less repeated what the Emperor did 10k years earlier). It might be the attached Guilliman warp entity being empowered by worship to the point where it can fight Chaos with the help of the Emperor's sword. Trading the thousands Curze did and might kill was not even with the Lions methods. Guilliman has returned in glory to the Emperor's side. The emperor only gives a shit about him because he’s all that’s left. Quel Tarin · 4/6/2017. Lion: would want to reform his legion and finish off Luther. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. ’. You cannot give up on one without giving up on the other. ‘Roboute Guilliman. "Guilliman. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. ago. The Emperor did not love His sons. A Family Disagreement. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Emperor meeting with Imperator Guilliman of Ultramar Empire together with President Angron of Nurceria would be hilarious. After some time in the sanctum imperalis Roboute comes out and only says that he had "received all the. He could have stood up for Lorgar, made a case. ‘Hope. However, I don't recall any reference being made to the machine spirit. The Lion is the literal son of the Emperor who lead a legion in the great crusade who's victory tally was second only to Horus and the Luna Wolves. Guilliman has very different goals for the Imperium than the Emperor did. An Imperium that is larger, stronger, faithful and united. The former worlds of the Realm of Ultramar didn't want to have to give up their independence to Guilliman after 10,000 years of not having him. Guilliman's return sparked Mortarion's interest in material affairs once more, and for the first time in 10,000 years he decided to lead the whole of the Death Guard in a renewed campaign. Anybody who says anything other than "it could potentially go either way" is being silly. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. This is the BoLS Team’s Murder on the Orient Express/Ocean’s 11 theory for how it goes down: Eldar use the webway to get everyone into the Throne Room. Yeah a lot of people want a broad brush to say Titus was totally against the codex and Leandros was 100% for it. If the Emperor Himself stood up, thought Guilliman, came down off His golden throne and proclaimedRoboute Guilliman, the primarch of the Ultramarines, privately referred to Sanguinius as one of “The Dauntless Few,” the four of his brothers that Guilliman trusted most. Discord - Old Man's Patreon - -. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. In fact that entire section of Roboute Guilliman's fandom page seems to be the entire chapter almost. ’ ‘Disappointment. ’ Achallor dipped his head. Guilliman is channeling power from the Emperor but it’s fully possessed by him, so he still has limited information. The Emperor’s plans had failed completely, and suffering was the lot of all men. Guilliman tries to kill one in Dark Imperium but that daemon is fated to exist at the end of time so it can't be killed. The humans suffered massively during the Age of Strife, and by the time of the Great crusade, the Fall happened fairly recently, and we have two kinds of. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. So she works secretly for Guilliman to find historical shit. Whereas Abnett's coverage of the Horus Heresy has got the Emperor's greatest son stuck in the middle of some wheat fields on the. No bad blood, just “thank god, someone competent to have my back. Guilliman and Sanguinius are THE most reasonable Primarchs, the Lion was butthurt and acted like a. Ruling over his own segment. ’ ‘For the Emperor,’ Colquan responded. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. During Roboute's absence, Konor Guilliman's co-consul, a man name Gallan, had unleashed a coup d'etat against Konor -- a development far from unknown historically, if in this instance a surprise. But He spoke. He will fail in this, but therein lies the tragedy of 40k. Because a) I hate the High Lords, and b) I would rather take a coast to coast trip through Commoragh than even attempt to strike the only loyal son of the Emperor. At these rumoured stats, he'll be using the sword against most targets since he'll have 14 attacks and wound T4 on a 2 plus at D2. That's not to say that comparisons can't be made but given Deng is a very recent and incredibly controversial ruler, it'll be difficult to have a conversation in good faith. - YouTube 0:00 / 27:34 THE EMPEROR SPEAKS! TRUTH OF HIS CONVERSATION WITH GUILLIMAN! Wolf Lord Rho 120K subscribers Subscribe 9. It is unknown to any but Guilliman whether or not Guilliman actually had any communication with his father during his time in the throne room, but I say it didn't happen, maybe it was all in his head, and here is why: It is said that Lion El'Johnson, mortally wounded during his fight with Luther, was taken in secret by the Watchers in the Dark. Guilliman is a Warrior King Statesman there to stabilize the Empire and stop (or slow) the rot. Since his return from death Roboute Guilliman, the Avenging Son, has been hard at work. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. "Be at peace , brother," he started , gazing into eyes that were. When interacting with Dante too during Devastation of Baal I always got the feeling that Guilliman really was hoping to get a similar relationship with Dante as he did Sanguinius. At the same time, he's growing more and more unsure that the Emperor ISN'T a. "The Emperor was working on a timeline that didn’t have much wiggle room That said, he did tell Land that the Nails were the only thing keeping Angron alive and he couldn’t remove them without killing him, so it’s also possible the the Nails have damaged Angron in a way that prevents the Emperor from fixing him after deathMortarion already had quite a bit to say about the appointment of Horus, imagine adding conflicted loyalties and "local" politics to that as well. 'Roboute Guilliman. Does Guilliman ever say anything directly in the lore about the matter? I get that Tzeentch can and does create entities to confuse and twist the minds of men to subvert the Imperium away from its. ”Roboute Guilliman never forgot what caused his adoptive father's death. The Emperor considers him an instrument, and isn't wrong to do so. Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. ’ ‘Fight me, you coward,’ growled Guilliman. Yeah, but guilliman and his forces are generally enough to deal with it. ‘Guilliman is your father’s echo, heart and soul. Apart from Faffnr, none of the Wolves had risen or shown any deference. He hates this fallen, dark Imperium, and wishes to restore it to the glory of the pre-Heresy Days. The Space Marines were to protect humanity and are expendable as such. Fan base takes that and runs all the way to “THEY FUKKED, GUILLIMAN IS A XENO LOVER. His work was all for nothing. He didn't plan on usurping the Emperor, but considering everything that was going on, that's not a bad assumption -Kurze did plan on sapping his morale. He heard all these at once. He was not the man who brought the rasp; he was the rasp". C) even if I wanted to kill Guilliman, he managed to outsmart every move the High Lords of Terra made to killing him. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. In Dark Imperium Guilliman believes that the Emperor sees him as a tool to escape his imprisonment on the throne. Which makes sense, given his particular talents and strengths. Believe Rumors about the Indomitus-Crusade and Guilliman just being Propaganda. Later, on the way to Terra with Guilliman, they all died fighting hordes of khorne daemons, with Amalrich (he is emperor's champion and marshall, not castellan) saving Guilliman from Skarbrand. Guilliman didn't know what to say. Ultramar. The speculation is that Guilliman goes to talk with the Emperor, and emerges with the Emperors sword. To my knowledge, the Lion hasn't had a lot of experience with politics. ' The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. " Guilliman steps towards the lithocast phantom, as though he might strike it down or snap its neck. Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're asking the question. The Emperor did not love His sons. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. Saying the exact same thing in 40k is heresy of the highest order because in 40k the Emperor is a god and is intrinsic to the Imperium he rules. I doubt any newly returned Primarch would want to stay and govern this new Imperium. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. Leman: “Well frack me and call me a Fenrisian wenches bitch, yer actually did it ye utter mad lad. To my knowledge, the Lion hasn't had a lot of experience with politics. I want to see someone roll up to Guilliman and just deliver a blistering, no-holds-barred, "You fuckers all ran off or died or vanished and left us and your father here to fend for our fucking selves, so we did what we had to in order to. Guilliman picks it up, stabs the big E. That is why he a fundamental decent human being. He reached out, and the Emperor’s Sword appeared in his hand, and burned with the fires of a thousand suns. genteel_wherewithal • 4 yr. Sanguinius fell, he had the carry the Emperor back from the vengeful spirit, and his sons did the brunt of the line work on the walls. ADB said Abaddon defeated the Horus clone in the same way he would've beaten the true Horus: the clone was no weaker according to him (though he did allow for it being soulless) The reason why Abaddon wins is because that's the point of the scene: Abaddon usurps his father's mantle. Always, it was the sword that did the damage. He can insist that he thought the Emperor was dead all he wants but in 40k that’s not the mitigating circumstances, it’s the crime. The whole practical/theoretical thing isn't what normal people do, because normal people have feelings making up the difference. Guilliman: Well, at least this one wasn't so bad. But things change and in 40k the Emperor and the Imperium are the same thing. Guilliman was a rationalist, Lorgar was a quester after metaphysical truths. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. ” Emps: “TO SAY THAT I AM SURPRISED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. Euten had told Guilliman that street hawkers and vendors were doing a brisk trade in cheap icons and tin badges displaying the iconography of the First Legion. Mortarion was trying to pull all of ultramar into warp and needed to kill Guilliman by disease but he ended up calling to emperor who set fire to the garden. After Roboute Guilliman was resurrected in the closing days of the 41st Millennium, Mortarion sensed his brother's rebirth. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. You and your ilk forget that to the peril of us all. It roared with fire as Guilliman swung it, seeming to flare brighter as it sensed the presence of the daemon caged inside the machine. If the Emperor did somehow physically revive humanity would immediately be the most dominant force in the Universe. The Emperor appreciates that and it’s why he is so favored, along with his pretty independent action, which probably screws with the Lion’s head to no end. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. Come what may, I have to stop Horus and Guilliman. ” “No, it is too important… even if what you say is true, I cannot return to Caliban yet. I want Guilluman to name the Lion the Warmaster of Imperium Nihilus and send him off into the darkness with a massive fleet to absolutely fuck shit up. The -3 AP is disappointing for the Emperor's. By all accounts, the XIII Legion was one of the most effective measured by quantity of successful compliances. Guilliman turns, finds another, punches his giant fist through the legionary’s torso, and pulls it out, ripping out his backbone. You will not wield it against me. ’. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. Guilliman returns to Ultramar and counter-attacks. So Guilliman believes it is not the Emperor that creates Saints, but that their intense belief in the Emperor manifests latent psyker abilities. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. There is a reason why the emperor wanted him to come back first before the lion or any of his other brothers. It was the look of the blindly faithful. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. The traitor Primarchs make sense from their perspectives too. ’ ‘Liar. When Colquan did not respond, Guilliman rotated at the waist so he could look down at him, for he was significantly taller than even the tribune. An empire, half-built. Monarchia, then was both lesson and warning. Unlike the Emperor who left them to die by teleporting Angron away. This is not just any loyal primarch, this is the Lion, and Guilliman has been in a similar situation before. ‘You do not heal from death!’ Guilliman roared. He remembered so clearly the first time he had seen Guilliman in the Temple of Correction. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its. Guilliman is not loyal to the Emperor, he is loyal to humanity and will do what it takes for them. Glaring whiteness blazed from the crevasses. The Emperor's power surges to revive Guilliman the surge of "holy" power actually burns a section of the realm of Nurgle, ie. So that was exactly what he did. They made sure they left their conquered worlds. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. ago. 'I apologise. Inquisition hides the body and kills any witnesses. The Emperor's goal is to uplift humanity into a new Golden Age. While the emperor wasn't a god at the start, 10000 years of the imperial creed being worshipped over thousands of planets has changed that. The few crew on the command deck tried very hard not to listen in. So instead he fired the ones that he wanted gone, replaced them with ones who would support his agenda of “we need to fix this mess” and then. ‘I find your familiarity refreshing. . Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. Nurgle's garden is incinerated. In any of these 3 cases, Guilliman is alone to "fix" the Imperium, so he has no need for keeping in mind his father's desires. **. I believe most Space Marines have some clemency on the issue, but I have had little opportunity to engage any in conversation. ‘Guilliman is your father’s echo, heart and soul. Context: Guilliman is fighting an army of daemons and has an epiphany about the nature of daemons, the warp and their connection to mankind's minds. He was loved, taught and raised with every care and in the expectation of excellence and success. Guilliman was clearly favored, Perturabo would have resented that about as much as he resented Dorn's treatment. Guilliman dies, but the Emperor was using him as a Trojan horse to channel his power, he revives Guilliman now that he’s in the Garden. One might say that the promise of another loyal Primarch existing next to Guilliman would be enough, but I argue differently. They were things. The moment that Guilliman realizes, after struggling with his frustration with the Emperor for the entire book, that they are alike; and a necessary evil for the survival of mankind. ‘Guilliman. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. Perhaps he even had this fact in mind, and maybe that's the main reason RG had the statesmanship/political leader trait in…The Lion is loyal to the Emperor, and the Emperor told Guilliman to go and rebuild the Imperium. In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness. Guilliman nodded. ‘Father,’ he said, and when he had said that word, it was the last time he had meant it. This is the first time in 9000 years that someone with working legs has actually outranked an Inquisitor Lord. ago. Euten had blown a raspberry. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. He did not hear them at all. ”. Guilliman's resurrection was symbolic of hope rekindled for the Imperium but he's got this dirty little secret which is that the entire 40k Imperium is FUBAR and has just about zero chance of ascending to its former glory. Guilliman - bursts through the wall like the Kool-Aid Man FUCK THE BOOK!!. As proof, he has the support of the Custodes, including the Emissary Imperators themselves. Crickets_Head • 6 mo. ’ ‘Betrayer. ’ Guilliman looked at the girl’s mutilated body. Guilliman confidently assumes that he, a primarch, will be of huge significance in the outcome of the war. ago. CryptoGuilliman assumes control of the entire military apparatus of the Imperium as Lord Commander with the Emperor's explicit blessing. Inspired and masterminded by the return of the legendary Primarch, the Ultramar Campaign was soon won, with the resurgent. Eventually, Mortarian and the Death Guard were summoned back to the Scourge Stars, which had come under threat from the War in the Rift. Dorn lost nearly everything. "Having Guilliman lie is perfectly in-character. The Lion needs the reminder. The Emperor was just using bog standard possession, like a daemon sword possessing Fulgrim or End of Empires possessing, well everything from a basic human to a titan. Achallor had a sudden, chilling insight into why Valoris had chosen Colquan. fandom. . Guilliman cannot merely say that he fights for the Emperor or in His name. Guilliman would have made a good Warmaster, he would have been able to handle the burdens placed upon him by Terra much better than Horus did, Guilliman already experienced in running a large administration. Guilliman coming back is so important that the emperor, in "dark imperium: plague wars" uses the most heavy handed methods to preserve him, like posessing a little girl, turning her into a saint and using so much power to kill demons and saving guilliman that the girl turned into ash ( i must however warn that it is a point of contention if the. In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness in a. But found only conflicting stories and myth. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus accuses Him of being. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. The Imperial Cult deified him as a demigod; Guilliman, the Emperor's Avenging Son. I think there's a difference between channeling into a mind and making something's warp presence of your own image. It is very likely that the Emperor did more in his trip besides obtain the stuff to create the primarchs. Despite her fiery personality Euten was extremely loyal and matronly to Guilliman and the Ultramarines Primarch in turn would share his misgivings and weaknesses with her in private. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. So did, perhaps, the fact that Guilliman already had responsibilities. I'd probably go as far as say armywide, since many of the Strategums would be more useful away from Guilliman. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. He does acknowledge that some might see his actions as traitorous to the Imperium, but his goal was saving. Was Roboute Guilliman the chosen heir to the Emperor?General Spoiler Warning to begin as the events. The priest shrugged. Man, that's beautiful. 10. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. The Emperor had access to. Didnt Guilliman say something along the lines of that the Emperors humanity is gone? And now hes just simply cold logical and uncaring. Based on the available information, the Emperor became stronger after his trip to Molech from first hand sources such as Alivia Sureka. Guilliman is going to suffer now that he's back. A test of his loyalty -- assuming his return isn't immediately followed by another private session with the Emperor telling him to build a new Imperium, as you suggested. Did the emperor love his primarch sons? In the indometus era Guilliman is said to have contemplated this upon his meeting with the Emperor. ’ ‘I fear he is beyond hope. 4. The Emperor is not infallible, nor am I. He kinda did. Guilliman is very painfully aware that he can't simply pick up as 30k intended before everything got twisted, especially when it comes to worshiping the emperor as a god. One of the Emporer's Primarch's, Guilliman, once had an audience with the Emperor behind closed doors. Sorrow suffused everything. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. His Primarchs were weapons, that was all. LessRight Adeptus Mechanicus • 2 yr. Guilliman stated that his time on the throne made him "lose his subtlety", so instead of seeing the Emperor however he used to see him telling him he was a good boy, he got a painful light accidentally letting slip that he doesn't really care about him as a person. So communication and Travel was more unreliable and harder than normal. The Siege of Terra was over, but there were the Scouring which the loyal sons would give chase to the. So there's. ‘Father gave you His blade, I see. ‘Let me die knowing what you are,’ Guilliman whispered. In fealty to Sesc Company, of the Rout, of the Vlka Fenryka. The Emperor did not love His sons. Roboute was his Augustus that avenged him. He's now the Imperium's defender. But the High Lord with overall responsibility for the Imperium's military and defence was referred to as the Lord Guilliman, even millennia later. This again would lead to a pretty close brotherhood between the two. Guilliman- I’m also Lord Commander of the Imperium, and our last, best hope to save humanity. While Guilliman is in charge of the Ultramarines, he is Lord Commander of the Imperium. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. That's why Roboute insisted that his guys were well rounded. What hurt most deeply was what went unsaid. Tau try to annex Imperial Worlds thinking the Great Rift weakened them. Please go read them if you can. Templars- Uh huh. Either the Emperor is dead, either he has no longer power to communicate remotely with anyone -which is the same that being dead- either he actually does not care anymore. I was trying to think about what would be the ultimate GrimDark ending to Guilliman's story. In the end a compromise was wrought between them. ago. ‘What is the purpose you have in mind for me?’ asked Guilliman. Context: Shortly after the start of the Indomitus-Crusade, an increasing number of Psykers among the. To Guilliman, the dire state of the Imperium was a horrifying surprise. Mathieu was thankfully unmoved. It was actually kind of wild that Guilliman when given the chance didn't give Mortarion the true death he deserved. Guilliman looked to the book. You could argue that Guilliman, Lion and Russ could distract Horus enough for the emperor to make a deadly blow. ‘Does He not speak to you?’ The unbearable radiance enfolded Guilliman, so glaring Mortarion threw up his hands. ’ ‘Thief. The Word Bearers' way of war had annoyed him. The Emperor may have vocalized that Horus was. I don't know if any others ruled over an interstellar empire besides Dorn and Guilliman, but all of them accomplished something impressive with where they ended up. Once you have torn that blasphemy down, raise up the population of Baal Secundus. Do we know if the Emperor instructed Guilliman to do. There's a reason that famous painting of the Emperor confronting Horus on the Vengeful Spirit has three central figures, and the body of Sanguinius is one of them. Sanguinius, What transpires on the surface of the Throneworld, I cannot say. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. He lets Guilliman keep the 500 Worlds both to keep him occupied doing what he was designed to do, and to act as a 'second foundation' to the Imperium. Arkhan had expected the Omnissiah’s dispassionate demeanour, but to witness it in so intimate a context was inspiring in the extreme. ‘I can never believe that,’ he said. ‘Tjejren was a servant of the Emperor once. Guy Haley. ”. The Emperor’s words burned him. Dust-Wonderful • 7 mo. The Emperor may have vocalized that Horus was. The demons refer to him as The Anathema and Mortarion refers to him as "Father". Inspired and masterminded by the return of the legendary Primarch, the Ultramar Campaign was soon won, with the resurgent Imperial. One of the most beloved figures in the Imperium, Sanguinius was among both the most noble and mightiest Primarchs. With words of light and fire, the Emperor had conferred with His returned primarch, the last of his finest creations. The Emperor did not love His sons. He heard all these at once. ‘I shall depart today, for the Emperor. Even with all the work he managed to do, he'd be deemed another horus by all those who believe in the Emperor as a God and it'll be a civil war the imperium can't afford. Some daemons can't be killed. ago. ‘Guilliman. ‘Worship the Emperor, if you must, but I am not deserving of your praise, nor will I. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus. +++I am an early prototype mechanicus construct. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. 53 votes, 36 comments. ’ Mathieu took a step backwards. There was no promise. Mathieu wanted week to decide. ‘Roboute Guilliman. In the long run, if he returned, I imagine he'd eventually butt heads with Guilliman to see how much power over the Imperium Guilliman is willing to cede peacefully. Some were defenders of the people, some were absolutely loyal to the Emperor, and some were just too good to go down the dark path of treachery and deceit. Horus is the brightest star and you carry your father’s face, but Guilliman’s heart and soul are cast in the Emperor’s image. Administration. Though he knew that openly purging them for no legal reason other than “I ordered you to” would likely start a civil war even bigger and more destructive than the Horus Heresy. It could very well still be that the Siege took too long and Guilliman and his accumulated forces entered the Sol system leaving Horus no choice but to act right then. NONE OF YOU EVER WERE" bit seemed especially hamfisted and everything started to fall apart afterward in terms of the cohesiveness if the writing. His body was a pilgrimage site for nearly ten thousand years. Guilliman stared back, his expression hidden by the muzzle of his helmet. ‘The Emperor protects,’ Iolanth said. He heard all these at once. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. Was the Emperor selfish and did He lied. The Minotaurs can say what they want, if Guilliman wants them to charge into the Cicatrix Maledictum then they'll have to go, regardless of their opinion or whomever they think they report to. So it actually not out of character. But lets face it, if Horus wanted to, he could kill his 3 brothers in mere seconds. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grevious harm against the equilibrium of time and being. He had not. The sun. The secudus was the pinnacle of that. It wasn’t treason in 30k because in 30k the Emperor is a man with a vision and loyalty to that vision is what counts. They're fanatical adherents of the Emperor, if they see Roboute standing 3m tall with the Emperor's own burning blade (from the model) they'd probably side with him. Guilliman had no illusions. Tech-Priests have levels of machine-enforced autism that normal people simply can't match.